This project is made in collaboration with Jean-Jacques Suurmond, Protestant minister, psychoanalyst, writer and columnist from The Netherlands. Jean-Jacques Suurmond and me started in 2007 serial of discussions concerning art and religion, their co-relation and their social and political implications. Our discussions were recorded and exist as a video and sound documentation.

They are published in from of a book Becoming a Christian that appeared on the occasion of The Extra Light Project.